Summary

Program
Why are we here?
Gail McClure
Phyllis Meadows
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The following 20 points, across the seven areas listed below, were among the most salient that arose during the discussions. A scan of these points will provide the quickest overview of the meeting. If you prefer, you can listen to these points as they were made at the meeting.

The meaning of technology
The meaning of community
What youth are doing
Strategies for philanthropy
Schools and the E-rate
Dynamics of the IT workforce
Lets make haste

The meaning of technology

1. At the Greenwich Day School which is probably one of the richest schools in the United States. I was meeting with the headmaster and I asked how they're dealing with technology. His comment was, Very slowly. I thought that was very refreshing. He said, I'm doing it so my faculty can absorb it as I go along. Something you don't hear often. Two, he said, Our ratio for expenditures is 70% on staff development training and 30% on physical systems. That was a profound comment. And thats properly the ratio. Mario Morino

2. Q: Do you see the possibility that organizations of all kinds will substitute IT for making artistic development opportunities available? A: Well, I don't think they're separate subjects anymore. Some of the greatest music compositions these days are cranked through the IT. Some of the greatest music composition today is occurring through IT. Some of the greatest photography work is occurring thorough digital technology. Sunday night I heard a concert with Stevie Wonder and Herbie Hancock and you know what? They both used technology an awful lot. The lines are graying. A person who specializes in wood construction, in pottery, can use the IT area to do that better. And we shouldn't draw the lines is all I'm saying. Some people have put it as bits versus atoms and it really shouldn't be thought of that way, it's bits and atoms together. Mario Morino

The meaning of community

3. I start the digital divide from a different place. In fact, it really is just a redefinition of what's existed for the last 50 years in this country. The same folk who are divided digitally have been divided economically, have been divided in terms of social process, have been disenfranchised and so on and so forth. So for me the fundamental question is, what's so big and bad about technology that's going to do things that the War on Poverty, for example, didn't do 40 years ago, to the extent that we still see the same foundations of poverty in 1999 that we saw in 1966 and 1965 when that was the major focus. When that was on everyones tongues and that's where the resource was going and so on and so forth. Holly Carter

4. Sustainability. Mechanisms for sustainability in terms of growth and development are fairly straightforward. Does technology really provide what we haven't been able to find in the last four decades? Does it enable people to say, I don't have to live from hand to mouth as an individual; from paycheck to paycheck as a family; from program to program as a community-based organization; from hustle to hustle out on the street. I can really start thinking about some sustainable abilities to move forward in a structured way. That's what sustainability allows you to do that subsistence existence doesn't. Can technology really move us from subsistence to sustainability? Holly Carter

What youth are doing

5. What can happen if you give kids the tools to work online and the time to be creative? Seven year olds can know their communities, study them, communicate about them, share that knowledge and act on it. Larry Kirkman

6. Youth are learning new technology differently and they're gaining new skills that we're not even sure we understand. We need to study this further. And we need to realize that the projects, the things that get them involved in technology are not necessarily called "learning about technology." They are doing projects that are valuable to them and have relevance to them and then are an entrée into using technology. Breakout Group B, Roberta Johnson

7. The best programs are ones that we're helping kids find a sense of efficacy and leadership, acting as producers, which was one of the other themes this morning; and enables kids to connect with others, both adults and peers, to take on challenging content in new ways. Breakout Group C, Alan Melchior

Strategies for philanthropy

8. Digital technology in general is driving the merger of all sorts of technologies. The computer has had a big place in it, but we're entering an era of whole new devices. All kinds of things will be coming out. The computer itself may become obsolete. We consider all technology if it's helping to reach young people, to empower communities, and to make things better in that larger structural sense of giving people equity, access. Gail McClure

9. Through all of our programming that we do, irrespective of the area, health, education, food systems and rural development, and volunteerism and philanthropy, we think that technology and information systems technology is on the cutting edge of everything that is going to happen and will be a natural part of our lives in the future. And so the foundation is looking for ways to figure out how do we best make sure that the work that we do in communities are supported with the right tools and that we make the best investment. Phyllis Meadows

10. How do we help local organizations, national organizations, tap in to intelligence, to resources, to best practices? Lessons learned at the local level have to be shared. The power of a distributed clearinghouse is very important and it is what we can do on the Internet, learning from each other and creating a very powerful, horizontal network. Larry Kirkman

11. We had some discussions about the premise that the current IT models, the kind of Microsoft model, was not actually sustainable within many organizations. And that we needed to look for fresh ideas, one of those fresh but not so fresh ideas actually reversion to pool resources, hosting or what's now going under the name of Application Service Providers, which is kind of back to time share. Mario mentioned that idea could be generalized to something called integrated services. So there's this recurring theme of pooling of resources of all sorts; human resources, knowledge of what works and what doesn't work, IT infrastructure, use of circuit riders, ASP models and so forth and so on. And the questions of whether a foundation could do some experimentation in hybrid models of providing incentives so that for-profit ASPs would create non-profit sub-units which would then serve the non-profit world. It's but again a warning that they need to be tightly tied to community partners. Breakout Group A, Dan Atkins

12. One of the things that we talked a lot about in concrete terms was bringing together the business community. In particular there is a lot of expertise in the business community now around organizational development and facilitating dialogue between and creating common visions among different groups. But inter-sector exchange tends not to happen. And that's one place the philanthropic community can act as conveners, to create some structures where that happens, both at the national and regional levels. To create structures for how do we improve organizational development or running youth for technology, but also in communities at the local level. Breakout Group C, Alan Melchior

13. One of the unanswerable questions about strategic investments is, Do you invest in creating a new and kind of separate sub-field, that enables the youth and technology folks to be getting together and sharing and doing common professional development and resource sharing; or do you try and build it as a thread within the existing youth serving organizations? And I think ultimately the sense was we may have to do both. Because you've got to go where the youth-serving folks are, but you also need an opportunity for people who are investing in this area to come together and build their own expertise. Breakout Group C, Alan Melchior

Schools and the E-rate

14. How do we leverage our E-rate investment? Four billion dollars by next year will have been invested in over 80,000 schools nationwide, wiring more than 1.2 million classrooms. This is an enormous commitment. What does it mean for the school now to have the ability to connect to the community? Are community technology centers, youth centers, a leverage point for that $4 billion investment? Larry Kirkman

15. The complexity of technology is now becoming a retardant to progress, not even an incremental benefit. In certain schools where we have fundamental problems that are social, human problems, we've diverted the attention from those problems and taken the money and time to put computer systems in. Our fundamental problems in the schools are going unaddressed. Mario Morino

16. Moving towards taking an advocacy role, we also had some discussion of a sense that you almost had to take some legal action. Some of the problems are so severe between the in-school and out-of-school settings to get access to this technology that a legal approach might be needed. Breakout Group B, Roberta Johnson

Dynamics of the IT workforce

17. To talk about what I call macro issues that I think are fundamental to how you approach solutions, let's start with the most important: the talent pool. There is an inherent shortage of people with qualifications to deal with technology, period, anywhere. And it is profound in the case of the non-profit sector, to the point it could be a fundamental impedimental prohibitive to progress as we know it today. Mario Morino

18. There was a very interesting discussion about why IT and the opportunities and economic potentials that it provides is different from other technological movements in the past. Assertions were made was that it was more open and that success in the IT industry right now is based more on what you can do rather on what degrees you have. And there is this very viable job category where you can make $35,000-50,000 a year based on fairly specific knowledge of NT servers and so forth and that's kind of a new opportunities phase. Breakout Group A, Dan Atkins

Lets make haste

19. So this world is changing and man, this bus was out of the gate a long time ago. And so you want to be involved with that, you don't have a choice. And my fear is that the commercial space just so outdistances us, because it is morphing almost by the week. So we've got to be aggressive. Mario Morino

20. We had quite a bit of discussion about the sense of almost urgency here, that time is of the essence, that decisions are being made and if we don't move forward with making some progress, the decisions will be made and we will be left out in the cold and those communities were serving will be left out in the cold. We need to move forward. Breakout Group B, Roberta Johnson

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